19 January 2011

Always show the talent respect my friend.

  
Sitting there with Brummy Jon on Saturday afternoon, chewing the fat, as it were, we were getting all indignant about something important and spitting feathers of fury. I was partly doing it because after having a bit of a morning with a lovey dovey lazy lie in, then a whacking high calorie fried breakfast whilst giving the old Guardian a nice slow reading, I needed to check up on my old chum.


By midday I was gagging for some activity and after a somewhat excessive big fat green one and a little lick of my mum I thought I’d go out, exchange contracts with the guy I was buying some land off – obviously more on this when the summer arrives – and give my old mucker BJ a visit.

With the stereo on high volume and some fresh CD capers from Oochie Oochie on the stereo playing just loud enough below the threshold of the in car speaker system so as to enable clear, precise listening yet not high enough to cause too much distress and alarm, not only to myself but to the old ladies pushing their trolleys along the road to the Co-op to, maybe, steal some salmon for the cat. Since I saw a biddy do it once in the Co-op I think they all do it all the time.

The world is a fine place. The sun shines and the air is warm. With dilated pupils and conversations swirling in my brain I drive the smooth drive of the middle aged man in a middle aged man’s car through the middle aged town to visit my middle aged friend. I drive and a police panda car populated with gum chewing, uniform wearing youths cuts out of the junction in front of me. They are looking mean and looking for trouble as they scan the street for potential criminals. The biggest story in town this week is "Whitstable pupil sent home from school for wearing the wrong kind of shoes". They tail-gate the poor sap in front. I thank God for the anonymousness of a 'teacher’s car' and the camouflage of wrinkles and grey hair and look forward to a full tilt afternoon and a quiet evening at home recovering whilst watching the three blu-ray films I picture on top of the TV at home. It’s all looking gravy. Good job they are not behind because my brake lights have been out for a few days. Must give old AutoTune a ring and book it in.

“Hope you haven’t forgot you said you were going to come to the ZedHeads gig tonight”, said Jon after another couple of green dooby’s and two cups of tea.

“Course I haven’t”, I lie. “I’ll see you there later”. What’s a man to do? Facebook is a scourge on society and I can’t even pretend to have a social life as the words ‘I’m Attending’ spring back in the face like an elastic band of torment.

Oh well, a few hours down the New Inn in the Bubble then a nice early night, I think. The phone rings. It’s Margate Jon.

“Hey, I hope you haven’t forgot about my party tonight? Come along whenever you want we’ll be going all night”.

“Course I haven’t”, I lie, again. “I’ll see you there later”.

Now I’m in damage limitation mode. Bang goes my buzzing afternoon sojourns around town then a nice dip on the sofa in the evening. How will I be able to stay awake? I return home and play tunes to myself and C for the rest of the afternoon and get a reasonably deep and chilled set together ready for the evening’s shenangs. C creates strange mushroom like creatures from rubber whilst I play through the boxes of tunes. It could be love.

Things like length of awakeness never used to bother me throughout my teens, my twenties, my thirties, even my forties, but for some reason I’ve recently become obsessed with going home to my own bed and sleeping in it rather than getting fucked and hanging out with other melting types talking shite well into Sunday evening. Now staying awake forever has become somewhat of a low priority for me these days. I still like to DJ out and about but I now love to get in there earlyish, do my do and look forward to having a cup of tea and watching Harry Hill when I get home. One does love ones Sundays these days and one does realise too often these days that DJing and partying dun'arf take up a lot of your spare time don'it?


Down the Corridor, sorry The New Inn, which is under new management, again, the ZedHeads are just finishing off their first set as I sit down with a pint of Oranjeboom. Shit and weak lager being the order of the day and only one pint too, as I’m driving down to Margate when the band finish and the pub shuts around 12pm. By the time everyone who wants to go but doesn’t have a lift has blagged a place in my car I am fully laden and all comments about the price of petrol and how donations would be gratefully accepted fall on deaf ears as usual. Still my friends are lovely if parsimonious and I would indeed do anything for them if they asked which, of course, they never do.

The Zedheads say lovely things to me about the review I did for them the other week and perform their well oiled set with perfunctory easiness whist we ignore them and bawl and shout nonentities into each other ears over the loudness of it all. We are of course right in front of one of the speakers. It may be loud but it sounds very clear; which is nice.

The new manager, only been there a few months, is already developing a reputation as a bit of a ‘shouter’ amongst the powerfully frownful muso lobby in Whitstable; that is he shouts at the bands when they run over time and has a tendency to be a bit of a ‘plug puller’ too.

Always show the talent respect my friend.

I’m coming down like a sack of shit and do the old yo-yo impression of being tired one minute and talking 10 to the dozen the next. Having been topped up accordingly we cram into the car and head for Margate and Margate Jon’s 60th birthday party.


This is no sitting around having polite conversation with relatives whilst eating sausages on a stick here. A full on rig pounds techno and house out in the front basement room whilst the kitchen is full of people surfing the edge of consciousness. "Plenty more volume in the pipes" says Stoney. A couple of frozen neat Stolichnaya’s later, happy birthday Jon, I negotiate an early slot on the decks for around 2am. MJ sorts me out some of his new art work which I buy from him for £50 as a birthday present. It looks great. He said he will give me more pieces.


By four, five five thirty am the disparate lift blaggers are assembled. Turning down polite requests to stay and get completely fucked we hit the open road as the sun begins to rise. Another weekend under the proverbial belt. I promise myself a real quiet one next weekend. Honest.

I receive a text from Margate Jon on Sunday night before I retire to bed, hoping to ease the pain of yet another sleepless weekend before the onslaught of work on Monday. It says; "Sorry, spent all money on wine, beers and spirits. Please send more."

14 January 2011

Conspiracy Theories? They really are out to get you... or are they?

Want to buy into a conspiracy theory? There are plenty of them out there in internet land but what is it all about, really? After all, the lack of evidence proves that the conspiracy is working?



 Theorist One

“Just who the hell do you think you people are? You are very, very, dangerous people indeed. Your obsession with creating this Euro State means that you're happy to destroy democracy. You appear to be happy for millions and millions to become unemployed and to be poor. Untold millions must suffer so that your Euro dream can continue." Nigel Farage MEP

Oz Tvc

Euroscepticism and your fear of the notion that integration weakens the nation state is very nationalistic mate. The nation state fears the citizen state. Nationalists demand sovereignty and supreme independent authority over a geographical area and its laws. Citizenship carries with it personal responsibilities and rights and works towards the betterment of the community. Nationalism believes that citizenship should be limited to one ethnic group and that the state is more important than the people. Nigel Farage is a nationalist, divisive prick...


Theorist Two

I would say you've completely missed the point Oz!

Nigel Farage - whether you personally dislike him or not - is simply pointing out the fact that the EU is a dictatorship of unelected bureaucrats who couldn't give a flying f*** about anyone except themselves and their pay packets. When you add to that the fact that the EEC was dreamt up by the Nazis in 1942, you begin to realise that not only is what Mr Farage is saying absolutely correct but that the EU is a VERY, VERY dangerous organisation that must be stopped in its tracks. Personally I couldn't give a shit whether I was French, Spanish, German, Muslim, Hindu etc. etc. just so long as I live in a true democracy - something which no one alive has ever experienced - and if they believe they have they are completely deluded.

Oz Tvc

Stopped and replaced with what? Aren’t euro MP's voted in democratically?

Theorist Two


Did I mention replacing it?!

In a Parliamentary democracy like the UK, the Executive Branch is appointed from among the elected Legislature.

In the EU the Commission is the Executive. They are the people making all the EU laws that govern the member states. And yet they are not accountable to the general public at all. They are only elected by the 27 people on the Council. They cannot be removed by the general public. They don't have a shred of democratic legitimacy.

Theorist One

Firstly I will not defend your judgement of me as you are entitled to it (and besides your my good friend ;-) x )


Secondly I think the terms you are using smack of and sound like the same old 3rd party terms tried sorry tired and tested political claptrap used by political commentators news papers and mp's to avoid and divide the real issue which is people. People and their struggle just to avoid the bullet and stay alive in some places and in others try and make ends meet.


Europe in itself is a region but those who seek to control it are more than divisive they have a plan which they are proud of and anyone who wants to find out about it does not have to dig very far.


Citizenship definitely carries with it personal responsibility, a responsibility to care and input a responsibility to speak out when you see something is wrong, something is very wrong.


I realised this when the police shut down party after party after party.


I realised this more when people begun to accepted this as ok.

Nigel Farage pointed out something that is very real and very true, he may be a divisive prick but there again I’ve never met him.....


Oz Tvc

Your approach and the way you discuss issues somewhat concerns me and the people who know and care for you. I am not spouting the 'same old claptrap’; these are accepted terms we all use to discuss these ideas. You can have your opinion, sure, but not at the expense of shouting down the rest of us.



All this talk of Illuminati, Nazis, destroying democracy is very concerning and if it is true and real then you could probably count me into your theory.

According to Wikipedia the EU commission proposes legislation then implements decisions.


Just what is your point theorist Two? I'm getting confused now and the more stuff you and Theorist One post on FaceBook the more confused I get trying to understand what you are trying to say.


The EU is a Nazi illuminate type conspiracy hell bent on destroying democracy?


It is still an interesting discussion though. Sure beats hearing about what people had for breakfast and what time they went to bed ;-)



Theorist One

Sure is and I do appreciate concerns for me :-)

Yes ever since that 1st acid trip I have kept my mind pretty close to the edge of what most people consider reality and the accepted norm, whatever they are.


I always wondered why the whole love and peace movement got tarred with the term which even I’ve laughed at "Stupid Hippy".


After a bit of investigation it was obvious love and peace cramped the style of the War and weapons manufacturers and unless peace was allowed to become the accepted norm something had to be done about it.
As I'm sure with your knowledge of underground culture anything which is counter to what the government or controlling faction wants that starts to gather momentum is quickly nipped in the bud by many and varied different means depending on the country and culture and what can be used to thwart it.

I have spent a lot of time looking into why this is and it seems that there is indeed for want of a better word a conspiracy or more correctly a plan on a very large scale, one so large and far reaching that it rocks the very fabric of our taught history and our perception of reality.

For me to say something like this will cause people to question my sanity and indeed what i have read seen and experienced to arrive at this conclusion.


Well my answer is if you want to understand Math study Math.


And if you want to understand law study law,


I wanted to know and understand why we are here, where we came from, how reality works, what it is and how we can create a loving caring planet.


I'm obsessed with it; I can't understand how a person cannot be completely fascinated by these questions. I am willing to read and listen to anybody and anything which may give me the answers I’m looking for. This does not mean I am gullible, far from it. I got to where I am now by questioning, investigating, reading and intuition.


I don't have a good memory. It's very difficult for me to site facts, times, dates and references, to back up all that I believe. But that does not make my findings null and void it just means I’ve got a shit memory.


If someone asked me to show them something I have seen or read which led me to question reality and history as the mainstream media and mainstream scientific and historical community portray I can do that. In fact I could probably find them an updated version of or presentation by someone who's good at that sort of thing, but that doesn't mean i agree with them lock stock and barrel it means it's pretty close to what I think.


Phew!.............x


Oz Tvc


Go for it Theorist One. All I’m trying to do is understand your arguments and POV.


Theorist One


Oz.... you more than anyone else over the years has made me question my motives and reasons for doing things and feeling the way i do. You help me clarify what is important to me and understand who i am i don't know why but it's kind of cosmic! You will always have a special place in my heart!


Theorist Two


Hi Oz. Just a quick reply Re." what's my point?" And bearing in mind this is my opinion based on the reading and research I have done during the past 5 years ... and you won't find this information on the BBC (Receives funding from the E...U in direct contravention to the BBC charter -http://entertainment.timesonline.co.uk/tol/arts_and_entertainment/tv_and_radio/article3257748.ece) or indeed any of the mainstream media because the main players in the mainstream media are closely allied with the people pulling the strings ...


My point is there is a global conspiracy and only those people who are willing to accept that this might be a possibility have any chance of beginning to see just how deep the Rabbit hole goes.




"all this talk of illuminati, Nazis, destroying democracy is very concerning and if it is true and real then you could probably count me into your theory." - All I can say to you is if you seriously want to find out if anything I am saying is true, you need to first rid yourself of any pre-conceptions regarding the world in which you live, and I'm sorry if that sounds patronising but looking into conspiracies whilst believing there's no such thing is like trying to lift a table whilst standing on it!


Re. chemtrails, this is a good place to start
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Chemtrail-Watchers/77065926441
and definitely watch this new documentary
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-K9rXydMmfw


And this guy has some useful information re. The EU, although he's dead now unfortunately.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jug-W-DKcms

http://www.prisonplanet.com/  is another good resource for links to various news stories of note as is the headline page at www.davidicke.com/headlines  


I'm not asking you to agree with anything I'm saying but simply to be open minded enough to consider that unless I was barking mad I wouldn't be saying these things. Hope you're well :-)

Theorist Three


I hope you guys don't mind I just wanted to add my 2 pence worth lol. Oz when I was studying law at University I came across some very strange facts for my dissertation on the Israel/Palestine conflict. Many years down the line and thousands of hours of research I can confirm, I'm afraid to say, that the basis of what Theorist One is saying is in fact true. The EU, and indeed other global institutions like the UN, are certainly not what they appear to be. In principle I am all for the EU and greater integration of nation states. However, because of the people who are the main actors in this movement, I am currently against the EU. That is because, in plain language, we have been lied to and deceived about the true nature and intentions of such institutions as the EU and UN. I am not a nationalist in the conventional sense but I am very aware that using such labels is often very misleading. Anti-nationalist sentiments have been, for some time now, been voiced in the global media to slowly alter the perceptions of peoples. When it served the oligarchies' agenda then it was ok to express such an opinion - eg Churchill's Britain or the Nazis (don't forget GB supported Hitler at first). However, with the emerging of trade treaties like NAFTA, nationalism had to be demonised because protective trade barriers were not permitted in the New Order of things. This as an absolute deception - NATFA and anti-nationalist sentiments = imperialism. Consider also the labels like left wing, right wing. Many people are often surprised to learn that extreme left wing is actually the same as extreme right wing - a centralised controlled dictatorship!


I discovered also that behind the show of global politics there is a group of people who are really running the show - they comprise the international bankers and wealthy family elites of the world (some people call them collectively as the Illuminati). This is a fact, one that is becoming increasingly obvious. For example, Professor Sutton has documented how this global elite funded Hitler's rise to power, indeed funded ALL sides of the conflict - note also that at the core of this banking elite were Jewish bankers!! Perhaps most strangely of all, these capitalist banker "elites" also instigated the communist movement! Mainstream history teaches that the Bolshevik Revolution was a revolt of the down-trodden masses against the wealthy capitalists. This is a lie, the Western banking elites funded and used the likes of Marx and Lenin to usher in the era of communism. This all makes sense when you realise after the 1917 Revolution the Marxists (mainly Jewish) seized control of Russia and stole its wealth. What did the ordinary revolutionaries get out of it? They got a dictatorship!


From such a perspective, an anti-EU or UN sentiments don't necessarily reflect a nationalist or antagonistic view point. It is rooted more, I would suggest, in concern that many people are being duped into believing regional groupings (like the EU) and institutions have a benevolent agenda when in fact they were created by and for the purpose of the global elite to consolidate their power base. In truth we are all being lied to about the true nature of the Eu and what they are trying to achieve - democracy doesn't really exist.... it is an illusion because it matters not whom we "vote" into power, these are only the puppets doing the bidding of their oligarchy masters. One basic fact alone proves this: money issuance is in private hands via the central banking system. A people issuing its own currency is the fundamental bases of a free and democratise nation. This is why our governments borrow money when it could, and indeed should, print its own money - hence where the real power lies. A central bank is the main pillar of the communist manifesto, along with a graduated income tax - we have both. People are often shocked when I tell them that we are more communist than a democracy.


Your disbelief is understandable because we have all been brought up on lies upon lies. It is not possible to see the magnitude of the deception without doing some considerable personal research.

Oz Tvc


I don't disbelieve anything; just looking for clarification and connections in your arguments.


What is the end purpose of this global conspiracy? Why do you, personally, want to stop it? Who else believes this conspiracy theory? ...being against global multinationalism is now not part of the argument? How do you know what you believe is true with any certainty and you aren't being fed a line like you say the rest of us are? We all believe some doctrine or dogma don't we? Is communism, collectivism, integration to be feared and if so why? What are your alternatives the the structures you say we have now?

Anyway, lots of food for thought there guys! Give me a bit of processing / research time and I'll get back to this thread soon...

Foundation X?


http://www.youtube.com/watchv=Z69JQY929vY&feature=player_embedded#!




Theorist Three


Oz, interesting points.

* The purpose of the global conspiracy: It is global in the sense that it is the elite(s) of society. The purpose depends on your angle of research but basically it is to attain a one world dictatorial government controlled by "them." To do this they have initiated regional groupings like the EU, North American Union, EU etc. They have operated for thousands of years through the secret society network and through control of banking, and later controlling global corporations and institutions. (this is a simplified view).

* Me personally want to stop it?: As a Buddhist, and I guess from a common sense point of view, what goes on in the greater world affects me personally. This is especially so if the egenda is a population reduction and a fascist style dictatorship.

* Who else believes this theory?: I think it has passed from the realm of theory to that of provable fact. "Believers" comprise ordinary people who have researched it, scientists (e.g. Joseph Farrell and Richard Hoagland), professors and other academics (e.g. Carroll Quigley, the academic mentor of Bill Clinton, wrote about the this group to take over the world, his book "Tragedy and Hope") politicians, engineers (such as those who studied the collapse on WTC on 9/11), historians (like David Astle who traced the banking fraternity back thousands of years to Egypt and Babylon.


* How do I know it is true? I guess we have to do our own personal research and make our own mind up.


* Is communism, collectivism etc to be feared?: I used to be a left leaning socialist myself. However, now I know the true origin of these ideologies and movements they are to be feared. The communist movements were instigated by the capitalist elites to usurp power and control, using the ordinary people to do it. In other words they are a trap disguised in seeking a better deal for ordinary people. Orwell’s Animal Farm is a good point in mind. Communism, or any form of political collectivism, seek to tightly control our lives. That's why private property ownership is not allowed, the banning of religion (under communism) so that the state is the supreme authority; and who is to be the state? the controlling elites! A good book for this is "Wall Street and the Bolshevik Revolution" by Professor Antony C Sutton - actually all his books are a great resource.
* For alternative structures? Democracy itself has great flaws and, in my opinion, not the best system. That is why when the founding fathers set up the US they set up a Republic and not a democracy. As you probably know, in a republic the minority rights are protected under a constitution and the majority cannot transgress those rights. However, in a democracy the majority can override those right - thus why democracy is often called the "tyranny of the majority". Moreover, the masses are very easily mind-controlled and deceived towards a certain point of view and can thus easily be manipulated - this they do through control of the media and education. In the UK we don't have a written constitution and thus the powers that be can enact any law they wish because there are no constitutional protections. That being said, EU law is higher than UK law and is becoming increasingly so with tighter integration. So I would opt for a US style Republic Constitution. However, under ANY system corruption and exploitation will emerge when there is bad apples in the barrel. So the primary focus for me is the spiritual awakening of the masses!


Theorist Two

Think Theorist Three has made all the points I would make and in a far more coherent manner than I possibly could! Having said that, what I would add is that my belief in this conspiracy is exactly that - my belief. I realise I can't make anyone believe it, all I can do, and all I ever try to do is to hold the door open long enough that they might see something which intrigues them enough to want to look inside.

I've known Theorist Three for 15 years or so and we never spoke of conspiracy until the last 3 or 4 months, at which point I realised we had both reached the same conclusion entirely independently of one another - and we're by no means the only people to have reached this conclusion. There are certainly many thousands worldwide who think this way and the number is growing. How do I know this conspiracy exists? Ultimately my intuition tells me it does. Having said that, because NONE of the facts ever stood up in events such as 9/11 and 7/7 this Illuminati elite (as they like to think of themselves!) have left themselves wide open to being disbelieved by anyone who is willing to break free of mainstream media brainwashing. With 9/11 for example, if the 2nd tower fell without explosives, then it defied the laws of physics! - It fell faster than is possible unless there were explosives creating a vacuum which literally sucked the building to the ground. And let's face it, what are the chances of both towers falling within their own footprint without a controlled demolition! Type 911 demolition into YouTube and watch. There are so many examples throughout modern history where the facts simply don't add up.


As to the alternative to what we have now? It's something I need to think about more than I have! Having said that, I've never understood why I have to ask someone else (vote for someone) to talk to the people in charge on my behalf - I'm not interested in a system where I hand over my sovereignty to anyone! or where I am forced to pay Tax from the day I am born. This is not freedom. This is slavery. And personally I've had enough of being enslaved.



Theorist Four

Phew! I have to admit that I haven't read your dialogue in entirety and all the interesting links and all; I've got to get dinner for hungry mouths now! But I stumbled across this on the news feed and I always find Theorist Two, Theorist One and Theorist Three's ...posts of interest. We're all new friends on fb and I have never met you's but on a variety of subjects share a similar or like mind... I don't know you Oz although I see that we're friends on fb! Excuse me for not remembering where we connected on fb, I guess through these guys, I've added nearly 50 new friends in the past month and I've lost track!
I've had various people question my sanity over this year as I've become vocal with my discovery of the global conspiracy. I understand this concern as these facts can be alarming to say the least. However, I can no longer suppress the need to communicate these truths. Many of the facts are unthinkable to sane and feeling people, I feel disgusted by the lies and enough is enough quite frankly! I will not uphold this lie anymore...


I started truth seeking consciously about 4 years ago, reading David Icke's book Alice in Wonderland: The Truth about the 9/11 Disaster. When I saw the title in a bookshop window, I ran in and bought it straight away because I had secretly held the view that it was an inside job since I saw the towers go down. I was amazed by the clearly presented facts that he documents. Since then, I've encountered the same truth through other sources and it has led me 'down the rabbit hole', discovering the untold history which I always suspected by intuition. I've read, or at least dipped into a few of David's books now and 9/11 is just a part of it. There is no doubt in my mind now that there is a sinister agenda orchestrated over thousands of years by the 'elite'. They have managed their agenda pretty well so far, without being detected, and have created a prison without bars which has been adopted by us of our own volition so it seems...


There is so much to say about the awakening that many people are finding themselves. I see so many excellent links from Theorist Two and so I won't add any more for now. I'd just like to add that I'm perceiving this time that we are living to be an extra-ordinary transition to a greater consciousness which is our birth right. Revealing the gruesome truth is necessary for us to reclaim this awareness of who we truly are.



I still have many friends who challenge me (or ignore me!) but no-one I speak to can ignore the facts (if they stay long enough to listen) of the sadly widespread practise of child abuse which I'm sorry to say is part and parcel of the evil forces at work in this world at present. You'll discover this for yourself if you keep seeking. I find that a truly open and seeking mind is a great strength. The agenda runs deep. It is about control through negative or 'lower vibrational' energy i.e. fear etc. So the only counter to this energy is compassionate 'love', expansion and light. That is what I'm conscious to pursue as a healing, but the truth has got to be told. ~ One Love ~




Theorist Four


Google Hollie Greig!


Theorist One


I know that many people are afraid of an alternative to what we have now as a system. They are afraid of the chaos they have been told about would ensue if it were to change.


I do believe that people are basically good and kind and loving and incredibly adaptable and ingenious.


I do believe that those who seek and need power or dominion over others are genuinely ill or best very severely different, by their very nature we are charmed by them and buy into their need to control and their methods of persuasion. It's a bit like tuff love, we have got to stop agreeing with them and supporting them just because they've got big mouths. Things don't have to be on a huge scale everywhere organised by army's and corporations.


After all the people who do the controlling and the manipulating are not the artists or the scientists or the inventors or farmers or the nurses or the carpenters or the teachers or the builders etc etc. what I’m saying is we can all spot them a mile off! and we don't need them.


It doesn't mean we should write them off as people but it does mean we should actively shun their methods and try and ignore their way of doing stuff because it doesn't work !


They are outmoded and have had their day, they are terrified of chaos, most are unable to understand creativity and the need for it though they do a very good job of pretending and dealing in it. They crave order and hierarchy but most of all they crave power.

 

Oz Tvc

There really is a lot of conflicting evidence and opinions out there and a lot of contradictory theories about various single or multiple events that may be related to each other, or not.

From JFK, to 911 to the EU illuminati to Osama Bin Laden’s death to global warming (e.g. http://www.911proof.com/). For every conspiracy theory website or book or (pseudo?) academic position there is a debunk the conspiracy website, book or academic position (e.g. http://www.debunking911.com/quick.htm ). Looking at them you can see the conviction of both sides and all positions on the sliding scale between them. It can be very confusing to a casual observer. Perhaps because I have been educated by mainstream academia and taught critical thinking and the need for the requirement of proof all I can really do is try to question things on both sides thoroughly?


What is the truth, what is the lie and what does it matter and it what way? Is there really such a simple dichotomy as truth or lies? Or is reality more complex and flux like? Is all opinion, academic, scientific or whatever, subjective?




You believe your point of view and you find the evidence to back it up whatever you believe. Is it about the effect this evidence has upon your life and the effect it has upon your interactions with the world? Or is the depth of your conviction or insight expressing your understanding of complex ideas? Are you helping yourself or helping the world?

Is it about just forming your own theories and quietly getting on with your life and letting others have their theories and getting on with their life? Is it about trying to convince the world you and your convictions are the ‘right’ or only way to think and about you expressing this as loudly as you can in the hope the world listens to you? Or the world changes or wakes up to your view? Do you feel like a victim?


Are you angry or frustrated with people who do not comprehend your point of view? Do you do it because you feel the world does not listen to you? Or are you trying to have some impact on the world and this is one way you can do it from your armchair without having to align to a political party or a cause or join a pressure group or lobby with a cause or other people? Is what you do solitary or social? Does this drive to inform people of your beliefs get in the way of your everyday life and impinge on other people’s lives? Is it the theory itself or the telling everyone about the truth, your truth, your perception of the truth or even your perceptions of some notion that you have decided you’re going to buy into that motivates you?


I don’t know. I’m trying to understand your incentive for your actions. All you do to me is say 'read this', 'go to that website' and not question what you read.

I see a lot of incoherence, a lot of internet only based content, a lot of discredited political and scientific people used to back up these theories. Have they just been discredited by the mainstream to make them appear less valid? All I know is that things are more complicated than they seem but why is the only place I can study conspiracy theory is on the internet I wonder? Does the ‘conspiracy industry’ create consumers for their products just like the mainstream thinkers do? Do you think they deliberately mislead for any reasons? I see no challenge to conspiracy theorists from you. Do you question some of their ideas, just a little bit? I can see how it can be very seductive providing simplified explanations for complex systems; I do it myself to try and understand the world. All I can come up with are more questions that need answering.

13 January 2011

What's in the pills? Fuck knows.



One pill now costs about the same as a pint of beer - and is almost as easy to get hold of. But the youth of Britain is starting to turn its back on ecstasy.


alcohol is indeed more
harmful than heroin or crack
When Alexander Shulgin, an eminent Californian professor of biochemistry, who suffered a stroke on Tuesday 23 November 2010, put 120mg of an obscure and unregarded phenethylamine to the test in his back garden in the summer of 1976, the result was a social revolution and a $65bn industry. Prof Shulgin has been synthesising and tasting new mind-altering drugs for more than 40 years, so, as you might expect, he has seen a few things in his time, but he still considers 3,4 methylene-dioxy-methamphetamine (MDMA) to be unique.



For the first time since Shulgin's discovery, it seems that the people of Britain, once its greatest enthusiasts, are losing interest in ecstasy. In fact, figures published in the British Crime Survey showed that the number of 16 to 24 year olds who had tried the drug in the past 12 months was down by a fifth on the year before to an estimated 312,000, or 5.4% of everyone in that age group. And this is at a time when the price of pills has been plummeting.

Since 1996 when BCS drug use measurement began, trends in levels of use among adults aged 16 to 59 demonstrate:


• Last year use of any illicit drug by 16 to 59 year olds is at its lowest level since measurement began, falling from 11.1 per cent in the 1996 BCS (and from 10.1% in 2008/09) to 8.6 per cent in the 2009/10 BCS, mainly due to successive declines in the use of cannabis since 2003/04.


• Class A drug use among adults aged 16 to 59 was lower in 2009/10 (3.1%) than 2008/09 (3.7%) and levels of last year Class A use are now at similar levels to 1996 (2.7%).


• Although the long-term trend displays relatively constant levels of last year Class A drug use overall, within this there were increases in last year cocaine use between the 1996 and 2009/10 BCS partly offset by a decrease over the same period in the use of hallucinogens.

 
After over 20 years in the mainstream, ecstasy is unquestionably non-addictive, and appears to be "relatively safe in the short term", according to Professor David Nutt in his advice to the home affairs select committee. In fact, though the authorities prefer not to make the comparison, roughly 20 deaths a year ranks ecstasy alongside electric blankets in a list of Britain's biggest killers. As with most things, prolonged heavy use is generally agreed not to be a good idea, and only research from a British team found that regular users are risking damage to their long-term memory. But a supposed breakthrough linking it with Parkinson's-like deterioration in the brain was comprehensively discredited when it emerged that the compound the researchers had been studying wasn't ecstasy at all. "As each year goes by, I get relatively more sanguine about the risks, rather than less," says Nutt.


Add to this the fact that pills are cheap and simple to manufacture, as well as being easy to distribute and consume discreetly, and the mystery only deepens as to why so many of its core consumers stopped taking it.


With the birth of house music in the 1980s ("Sounds wholly or predominantly characterised by the emission of a succession of repetitive beats," to borrow the 1994 Criminal Justice and Public Order Act's seductive turn of phrase) did the drug begin to forge its definitive association with the dance floor. Then, in 1988, during what became known as the second summer of love, ecstasy seemed to have found its spiritual home in a flagging Thatcher's Britain.


The nation's youngsters began to congregate in their thousands in fields and warehouses. In acid house they had their music, in fluorescent T-shirts and smiley’s they had their fashion, and in ecstasy, at £25 a pill, they had their drug. Never again would school parties be embarrassingly called "discos"; from now on, they would be, even more embarrassingly, called "raves". Even today, and probably for all time, ecstasy's public image - that thumping, sweaty dance floor in which it is always imagined - is a scene from 1988.


And this, as any brand manager will tell you, is a slump waiting to happen. Like 501s or Marks & Spencer, ecstasy's image got stuck in the past.


In fact, in Britain's illegal drugs market, cocaine has been the clear success story of recent years established now as second only to cannabis among the nation's favourite illicit highs.


At the same time, the traditional pills'n'thrills clubbing experience has come down from its late-90s apogee. Ten years ago, you went to a club or a field to take drugs, dance like a loon and leave at six in the morning. Now it's different; there are lots of different sorts of music. It's a lot more social. There are pills there, but you don't have to take them.



This new, restrained style of socialising, however, has done little to quench the modern clubber's appetite for intoxication. Britain's dance floors now bristle with a hitherto unimaginable variety of powders and potions. Before it was just pills, and maybe some coke as well, but that was about it. But now people do ketamine quite regularly, GHB now and again, mescaline, all that stuff. And they mix it up a bit, too. Next to these fearsome compounds, and the Shulgin-designed 2C-B, ecstasy seems very tame indeed.


Such comparisons, and habituation, no doubt play their part in ecstasy's decreasing cachet, but then the cut-price tablets now on offer are also, by common consent, not what they used to be. Pills are less strong than they were.



What's in the pills? Fuck knows.

If doses have been getting weaker that might explain why people are taking more of them while also accounting for a decline in the mystique which used to attract new users to ecstasy. With estimates suggesting that only around half of all tablets sold as ecstasy actually contain it, could it be that it is not MDMA but shit, weak pills that don’t contain any MDMA that people have lost their taste for?



The most compelling evidence for such a theory is the increasing prevalence, anecdotally at least, of “MDMA powder”, a product variant that claims to offer a more quality-controlled source of pure ecstasy. It's been around for a while, but it's really taking off now. MDMA is a reassurance to people that they know what they're getting. It is available as crystals, and it's definitely better - a lot cleaner and more rushy better than any pills you'd take. As one user said: "I am astounded. Everyone must get to experience a profound state like this. I feel totally peaceful. I have lived all my life to get here and I feel I have come home. I am complete."


David Nutt’s assertion, from his study published in the Lancet, that alcohol is indeed more harmful than heroin or crack should now take the focus of the British Crime Survey away from drugs and shine it on alcohol, but it’s doubtful. The study by the Independent Scientific Committee on Drugs also said tobacco and cocaine were judged to be equally harmful, while ecstasy and LSD were among the least damaging.


The rise of MDMA powder is unlikely to account for the British Crime Survey's findings - how many among its new users have honestly not taken one pill in the last year, if indeed they consider it a different drug? But it certainly suggests dissatisfaction with the quality of today's tablets. In this climate, it is easy to understand why some of Britain's more occasional drug users might be opting for coke instead of ecstasy on their - now more soigné nights out at The Brewery Bar, as well as why their teenage brothers and sisters, without a thriving house music scene to absorb them, try pills much later, if at all. It's easy to understand, in other words, that ecstasy is not dead, or dying. But it may just have entered middle-age.


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A documentary, entitled Dirty Pictures, which explores Shulgin's lifetime quest to unlock the human mind through psychedelics, is touring film festivals worldwide at the moment. http://dirtypicturesthefilm.com/index.html  



Friends of the scientist have now launched an appeal for donations to help with his treatment. http://www.facebook.com/pages/Help-Sasha-Shulgin/177539002260930?v=wall  


http://shulgin.chipin.com/help-sasha-shulgin

"We need funds for a lot of things including attempts at archiving his work, and that is something we have been asking for money for. But right now it's simply donations for Sasha's health that we need," said Ann, adding that she expected him to survive and that he was not paralysed. http://www.erowid.org/donations/project_shulgin.php  

thanks to http://www.mdma.net/club-drugs/ecstasy.html 


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1 January 2011

mmm loudspeaker... I love you, and other such quotes from 2010 at tvcabbage -


  • I love the big lunk and want him to be himself and if that’s what he wants that’s what I do.
  • mmm loudspeaker... I love you
  • I’m going home with the woman I love and we’re going to bed.
  • I love you all. For now ;-)
  • The internal scream sounds so loud the KetHead standing next to you with his hands down his trousers goes “What you screaming for?”
  • She knows I love it though and probably enjoys the power she has over me?
  • We chatted away merrily all night, easily and in a relaxed manner. I loved it.
  • "I love communications" he says, grinning.
  • "I love this crowd".
  • Ah, we love the Neppy
  • And if you’re part of organising it, there should definitely be moments of utter terror where you’re worried it’s spun out of your control, and moments where the sight of the collective love of music that really deserves to be loved makes the hairs on the back of your neck stand on end, and makes the old tear duct start to fill.
  • We love you :- )
  • The lovely first few hours, of the Riddimatics  playing ska and reggae…
  • Faversham young mums and dads who love the X Factor and the Black Eyed Peas?
  • the division between those who love booze and those who love other intoxicants, all ruled that these people should not all be together in the same place doing this. But they were.
  • Oz and I are having a lovely time
  • driving like a lunatic in a Richard Curtis film as if his character had to reach the airport before the plane took off so he could tell the woman he really did love her.
  • Guitarist Pete, understated, just the right amount of guitar to compliment everyone else, lovely, perfect.
  • And for the younger girls and boys - Daisy, Charlotte, Dean and their mates - who sometimes come to our parties and say how much they love the music, surviving the sneers and askance looks of the older group members - I take my hat off to you.
  • it’s giving a chance to people who love to express their creativity, it’s a chance to be whoever you want to be, including cross dressing
  • Jenny P on one side of me and the lovely Helene on the other
  • Brecht would have loved it seeing his songs performed in the privileged surrounds and Gothic arches of the King’s School Canterbury
  • I remember her best, in my popular cultural back catalogue of memories as the SPECTRE agent Rosa Klebb in the James Bond movie From Russia with Love
  • As Marcel Proust said “life is sown with miracles that only people who love can wait for”
  • his first and only love is house music
  • deep tech is what he loves and to say to him to "just play whatever you want; whatever gets the old hairs on the back of the neck standing up". “Or my new tunes” he says smiling; "Or your new tunes. Whatever makes you happy, do it?"
  • Do they not love us and we them? Do we not share space and endeavour to live harmoniously and with equality? Do we not endear, with loyalty and joy? Do we not desire the same love?
  • Romantic love, as any sane person knows, is an illusion, a mechanism induced by feeding genes and which death extinguishes.
  • But, to me, there is only one happiness in life, and I agree with Goethe on this when he says it is “to love and be loved. Only the soul that loves is happy.”
  • We also need our spaces of conviviality, of play, of joy, of social interaction, as much as we need love.
  • So is living in the moment, in a special space, with a few trusted and loved friends, the pinnacle of life, a major component of mental wellness and an essential part of personal growth?
  • I can understand that a man needs time away from the love of his life, his partner.
  • We fall madly in love with someone, we revolve our lives around that person, but somehow it never works out the way we envisage.
  • Men (and some women) often break up with loved ones, while they are still in love because they think there is someone else out there who is perfect for them.
  • They choose whatever excuse feels right to not commit to not love to not show passion, to feel restricted, to feel things are just not right.
  • The genuine love of your life is the one that makes your heart beat a little faster, the person you are constantly trying to impress, the person whose voice you need to hear and the person you do the little things for.
  • That feeling or notion that “if your current girlfriend is the love of your life (and a person can tell if they are or not), then never let them go” remains strong in me so the thought of the lads night should have no impact upon the big picture going on there.
  • Ah, don’t we just love it when we go down to the smack?
  • our lovely career jobs
  • No wonder people love a free party.
  • The pleasure principle, that is people seek pleasure and avoid pain, is missing, becomes inverted even, and sets up a device, a dichotomy by which political frustration can be vented, fears articulated and the lack of love revealed.
  • “I’m going home”, I suddenly announce. I’m going home with the woman I love and we’re going to bed.
  • as I walk to my car hand in hand with the lovely Clare I vow to never, ever 'wait' for that promoter to say to me 'you're on next mate'. Such a relief.

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